Improving Land Access - Permaculture, Land and Land Access. Episode 6

In this episode, we hear from each of the guests in the Permaculture, Land and Land Access series, as they address the question: What can we do to improve land access, particularly for those who want to grow food for people? We’ll hear from each of them in the order they appeared in the series so far, beginning with Jesse Frost, followed by Sarah Mock and Amyrose Foll, and ending with Reana Kovalcik.
 

 

What do you think of their answers to the question about improving land access? Whose response do you resonate most with? How would you answer this question?

Let me know by leaving a comment.

Up next is the last episode in the Permaculture, Land and Land Access series, with my final thoughts.

Until then, spend each day working to improve land access for those who want to grow food, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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Reana Kovalcik - Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 5.

In this episode, Reana Kovalcik and I discuss direct action and mutual aid to get seeds into the hands of people who want to grow food. Using that same overlay, to find and connect with local allies and organizations to spread the message and amplify our impact. Throughout, she uses her work with Slow Food and the program she started, Share a Seed, as effective, on-the-ground models to inspire and encourage you in your next steps for local change.

 

 

Reana, Share a Seed and Slow Food D.C. are at SlowFoodDC.org.

This conversation with Reana ends the individual interviews in the series. In the next episode you’ll hear from each of the guests again as they share their thoughts and insights on what we can do to improve land access for those who want to grow food.

Until then, spend each day working to get seeds and food where they’re needed while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

Listen to the other episodes in the series
1 – Permaculture, Land. and Land Access
2 – Jesse Frost
3 – Sarah Mock
4 – Amyrose Foll

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Amyrose Foll - Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 4.

Continuing the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access, in this interview I’m joined by Amyrose Foll, of Virginia Free Farm. Amyrose shares how she and the team at VFF use the farm as an incubator of ideas that empower individuals and organizations to get food and gardens into communities. She also discusses: How growing food is a liberating experience for everyone. Ways to find land to grow on. And, some organizations working with gardening and growing as therapy.

Throughout you’ll hear her thoughts on what we can do to make a difference, right now, where we are.
 

 

You can find Amyrose and Virginia Free Farm are at: VirginiaFreeFarm.org

Next in this series is Reana Kovalcik of Share a Seed and Slow Food D.C., as we look at seed swapping and mutual aid as acts of community outreach and empowerment.

Until then, spend each day expanding your impact as a seed saver, grower, or activist, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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Sarah Mock - Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 3.

In this interview, I’m joined by the author of Farm (and other F words), rural and agriculture writer, and researcher Sarah Mock. Sarah shares her discoveries about the sustaining myths versus realities of farms, farmers, farming, and agriculture profitability in the United States. She also takes us deep into systemic incentives for holding agricultural land as an investment and how this, and other policies, limit first-generation farmers from accessing or retaining land in order to grow food.

 

 

You can find more about her, her writing, and her broadcast coverage at sarahkmock.com. She is also on Twitter @sarah_k_mock and her book, Farm (and Other F Words) is available from  Bookshop.org.

Next in this series is farmer Amrose Foll, of Virginia Free Farm, offering more insights into the life of a farmer and working with the land and growing food for the people who live there.

Until then, spend each day considering the impact of perception and story on our knowledge and understanding, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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Jesse Frost - Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. Episode 2.

This conversation continues the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access as Jesse Frost joins me to share his experiences as a small-scale farmer. This includes: Where he sells. What he grows. Insights into market gardening, or French intensive, methods. How he's working towards reducing plastic around the farm. Whether or not you need to mechanize with a walk-behind tractor. And the use of living paths. We close by touching on his thoughts on farming on the small side in cities and how to reframe our mindset and the crops we choose to the resources and space available.
 

 

We'll hear more from Jesse in Episode 6 of Permaculture, Land, and Land Access, where he shares his thoughts on making land more accessible.

You can find Jesse and Hannah’s farm at RoughDraftFarmstead.com.

His book, The Living Soil Handbook, is from Chelsea Green Publishing, at ChelseaGreen.com.

His work on No-Till Growing, with working partners Jackson and Josh, is at NoTillGrowers.com.

Up next in this series is Sarah K. Mock. She shares the realities of large-scale, commodity agriculture, and the impacts of policy on farming and the value of land.

We’ll hear from Jesse again in Permaculture, Land, and Land Access Episode Six, where he shares his thoughts on making land more accessible.

Until then, spend each day increasing soil fertility and scaling to the space you’re in while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

Get you copies of Rosemary Morrow's Books at:
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Permaculture, Land, and Land Access

This episode starts the series on Permaculture, Land, and Land Access. I wanted to explore this topic because I’m currently landless and the opportunity to buy land or purchase a house with enough space for a garden, shrinks each year as the price goes up and the size of plots goes down. Living in an apartment in a city, there are plenty of parks and green spaces, but accessing a community garden or place to grow can require a car, years on a waitlist, or both. When an affordable place comes, it may require relocating away from friends and family, or be hours from the viable markets needed to sell on-farm products, requiring regular long-distance commutes to town and the associated added expenses of transportation, fuel, maintenance, and time.
 

 

From my conversations with listeners over the years, I know many of you are in a similar situation, so here is a series on what we can do, without land, to practice permaculture where we are, in our homes and among smaller green spaces, while supporting growers in cities and periurban places.

If you do own land where you farm or practice permaculture, there’s a lot for you to learn as well.

Listen to understand how to care for the ground beneath your feet in the interview with Jesse Frost. Sarah K. Mock dives into the systemic problems at play that limit profitability in agriculture. Learn about how farmers give back to their communities and support food access with Amyrose Foll, while in the final interview, Reana Kovalcik shares how to get food, plants, and seeds where they’re needed through community partnerships and mutual aid.

In addition to those four interviews and this introduction, in episode six of this seven-part series, you’ll hear each of those guests address the question of how to improve land access for people who want to grow food where people live. Episode eight, similar to this beginning, serves as the bookend, with my final thoughts on this series and what we learned, as well as a large section of resources and organizations to explore and connect with if you’d like to take your journey of land, agriculture, and access, further. This series runs through the month of November.

As you’ll be hearing from Jesse, Sarah, Amyrose, and Reana, in the weeks ahead, here is a bit of their biography and background, and my interest in having them join me.

Jesse Frost’s interest in farming began in the late 2000s because of wine. He was working in a wine shop in NYC that specializes in small-scale, artisanal, certified-organic, biodynamic wineries. After visiting some of those farms around the world he returned to his home state of Kentucky to start his life as a farmer with a two-year on-farm internship. He and his wife, Hannah Crabtree, now live in central Kentucky and farm using no-till practices on certified organic soil with a focus on intensive methods.

I discovered Jesse because of his recently released book The Living Soil Handbook from Chelsea Green Publishing. Learning more about him and his practices, I discovered that, though he’s worked on farms of a variety of sizes, his current farm, Rough Draft Farmstead, is under five acres in production, something more attainable for those of us in and around cities, and for us to hear about the experiences of someone who farms on the smaller-scale in a suburban location, rather than a rural setting, and who makes their on-farm living by selling to farmer’s markets.

What Jesse spoke to during our interview, particularly his answer to the question on land access, opened up my thoughts on Landcare and growing food into the broader perspective which this series became.

Sarah K. Mock is an agricultural journalist and the author of Farm (and Other F Words). Sarah grew up on a small family farm in Wyoming while participating in 4H and FHA, and began her personal foray into agriculture at the age of 13 when she wanted her own dairy goat operation. Her father said he would loan her the money if she wrote a business plan.

In speaking with dairy goat farmers and reading all the books in the library on farming, homesteading, and goats, available, when Sarah started putting the numbers down on the page for her plan, something didn’t add up. Knowing she was only responsible for the goats and their overhead, not rent or facilities, she couldn’t find a way to make her operation profitable. This experience drew Sarah deeper into her appreciation for the agricultural lifestyle while also recognizing there was an economic mystery at play that didn’t make sense.

Leaving college, Sarah spent several years searching for the solution to this conundrum of farm profitability before turning to journalism as the way to work and be paid to find answers to big these problems. Starting out with a national news organization covering Congress, the White House, and USDA as an agriculture and rural issues reporter, she went freelance in 2019.

I began following Sarah on Twitter after seeing people quote-tweet her comments on a series of articles from Chris Newman of Sylvanaqua Farms on race and land access in America. Those posts and her tweets since show a perspective that cares for agriculture and farmers, but not for the myths or everyday narratives we see on the news or hear repeated by politicians and pundits. Her interview gives us the factual realities about farmers farming on a large scale, how that is supported by government policy while eschewing small-scale, regenerative, or permaculture practices, and what we can do to start changing the system.

Amyrose Foll grew up in the woods of Western Pennsylvania foraging and hunting with her father while surrounded by a mother and grandmother who gardened intensively and traded with other community gardeners for what they didn’t have, which inspired her love of plants and growing things. Her farm came about as a legacy of love to cultivate, preserve, and distribute rare and indigenous seed varieties to tribal entities and reservations, and to garden programs, in Virginia and across the United States, so these cultivars would not be lost to climate change. Those beginnings grew into a permutation that now encompasses urban agriculture, food justice, mutual aid, and community fridges.  

Her farm, Virginia Free Farm, is a nonprofit with the mission to deliver free nutritious, responsibly produced healthy food to their neighbors in need. She started out distributing food because they had too much and needed to do something with the surplus. They now feed around 500 people directly from the farm, which has inspired a movement in central Virginia that gives food to Food Not Bombs and unhoused communities in the area, while supporting a dozen community gardens, food sovereignty gardens at several Virginia indigenous tribes, as well as working on legislation at the state level for equal access to food for BIPOC communities, urban areas, and food deserts.

This isn’t just giving food away, but also sharing the knowledge, supplies, and resources so that communities and individual families build resilience. When I learned about all of this direct action in practice, in a way that cares for Earth, cares for people, and creates a surplus to return to the community, I had to interview Amyrose, who I discovered as this series was coming together, and she was a perfect fit.

Reana Kovalcik has been in the food and farm world for a decade working in communications and policy. While working for a school food organization in New York City, in 2010 she was pulled into Slow Food NYC on the work there on the Child Nutrition Reauthorization, a legislative package that funds nutrition programs, and later joined the Slow Food NYC policy committee. She relocated to Washington D.C. five or so years ago to work for the National Sustainable Agriculture Coalition on Federal Farm Policy, while continuing her work with Slow Food at the national level and on the local level with Slow Food D.C., where she is the Vice-Chair and Governor. Reana also started the Share a Seed program at the beginning of the pandemic, something we talk more about in her interview.

It was through Share a Seed that I found Reana and reached out to her to talk about that program as another practical approach to get involved in our local community, without needing land or to grow food. Our conversation, which does talk about that as well as the role of the Slow Food movement in food and food access, also continues the thread of mutual aid and how we, each of us, can work directly to increase food security and create food justice.

I’ll include links to each of the guests, their projects, and related resources in the show notes for their individual episodes, and recap all of that in episode seven.

Until the next time, spend each day considering how you came to the land where you currently reside, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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Lobelia Commons - Earthbound Farmer's Almanac

If you’ve been listening to this podcast since near the beginning, you may remember shorter episodes that introduced an idea or topic. This episode, and others you’ll hear like it, irregularly in the future, is a call back to the days of those perma-bytes. With so many amazing people and organizations doing good work in the world, I want to be able to share more of them with you.
 

 

So, today,  I’m joined by Hadley of Lobelia Commons, a mutual aid organization in Louisiana, to hear about how they connect people with food through dozens and dozens of small, local, initiatives. Hadley is also here to tell us about the Earthbound Farmers Almanac, a farmer’s almanac for the Anthropocene, with an invitation for you to get involved by submitting an article, recipe, story, or poem to the 2022 edition.

Listen to this conversation with Hadley to learn more about the organization and what they’re looking for submissions, and I’ll join you again after.

 

 

I’d like to give a thank you to Hadley for agreeing to join me so we could get this out to you quickly so you could join in and submit your pieces. As was mentioned you can submit your piece for the Earthbound Farmers Almanac via email to:

lobeliacommons@protonmail.com

Find Lobelia Commons
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Listen to Partisan Gardens: Earthbound Farmer's Almanac
Read Earthbound Farmer's Almanac (PDF)
Purchase Earthbound Farmer's Almanac

I’m looking to produce more of these shorter episodes throughout the year, as they make sense. If you know of a person or organization which you think would be a good fit for a quick discussion like this, please let me know.

Until the next time, write that article, put that poem down on the page, tell your story, and share it with others, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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Vicki Hird - Rebugging the Planet

We know that pesticides have an outsized impact on insects in the environment, particularly when broad-spectrum chemicals are used, killing nearly all the invertebrates they touch. If you’ve read a warning label on these, or many of the other garden, yard, or farm sprays available, you’ll find cautions about keeping the contents of the container out of waterways or away from amphibians.

But what about the other harms of human impacts? Like the destruction of habitat. The ever-increasing noise of industry. The lights that fill the sky with brightness throughout the night.

And once we’re aware of this mess, what can we do to start repairing the damage?
 

 

To look at these problems and find solutions, I’m joined by Vicki Hird, author of Rebugging the Planet. In addition to sharing a wide overview of the harms to insects in the modern age, we also dive into ways we can make a difference in our homes, across the green spaces near us, in our communities, and how to tackle the systemic problems, in order to care for the microfauna of the soil, water, and air.

Vicki Hird, who you can find at rebuggingtheplanet.org. While you’re there, I also recommend clicking on the menu for Photos of Urban Bugs, to see dozens of pictures of insects from her garden. Her book, Rebugging the Planet, is available from Chelsea Green Publishing. I’ll include links to all of those, and more, in the show notes.

As with every interview, there’s so much to take away or comment on from this conversation, whether that’s the impact of fashion and clothing on the environment or the policies which subsidize commodity crops, making junk food overly cheap, while keeping fresh organic food out of the hands of many.

 

 

As my children reconnected me with insects and inspired a newfound love of bugs, and my own work on changing ourselves to change the world, I’d like to speak to that as my closing thoughts.

When we look at all the animals and insects in the world, many can be considered charismatic, especially the megafauna like pandas or polar bears. We’re drawn to them when we see them, including some of the smaller ones like a brightly colored and contrasted Monarch butterfly or the bumbling flight of a bee. But we also need to fall in love with the creepy-crawlies which don’t always inspire love at first sight.

Watching my children fearlessly interact with creatures that made me uncomfortable to touch or, in the case of spiders, even to be near, made me wonder why I had those aversions. Though I never discovered the source of my discomfort, stopping to ask where those fears came from was the first step in my reformation.

The next was to get out in the grass and garden to look for all the insects I could find making their way across the ground or crouched on plants. With my camera in hand, I took close-up pictures of everything I could, especially spiders. Then, sitting at my desk, pulling those images up on a large screen so that each creature stood perched before me larger than life, seeing if I could identify them. In doing this, giving a name to what I once avoided and beginning a relationship with each one.

I encourage you to do something similar to connect with the life inhabiting your unique little piece of the world. Whether with a camera, sketchbook, or field guide, spend some time with all the beautiful bugs you can find.

Those, however, are just my thoughts. I invite you to share your observations or questions with me, whether you want to talk about this episode or any of the others in the archives. Leave a comment below.

From here, there is no new episode next week as I’m off to celebrate my birthday on October 31st. If you’d like to get in touch, I will still be available by direct message here on Patreon, or by phone, text, or email. The show will return with a new episode on November 8th.

Until we meet again, make decisions each day that help to rebug the planet, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

Resources
Vicki Hird - Rebugging the Planet Website
Photos of Urban Bugs
Rebugging the Planet at Chelsea Green Publishing

Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver
Silent Summer by Dave Goulson 

Xerces Society
National Audobon Society
World Wildlife Fund
Conservation International

Related Interview on Insects
Bees

Related Interviews on Citizen Science
Mycology and Citizen Science
The Citizen Scientist

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Shantree Kacera - The Living Centre

We can expect change to occur continuously throughout our lives. We’re likely to call several places home. Friends will come and go. We’ll move between jobs multiple times and likely even switch career paths.

As permaculture practitioners, in the landscape, we play with change. Slowing succession in some places of our design, advancing it in others, to arrest or encourage this process on a timeline that matches what we want within any given zone.

But how do we change as people and plan the succession of an organization, and the land it inhabits, through time?
 

 

To examine this question, I’m joined by Shantree Kacera, founder of The Living Centre, an eco-spiritual learning space and demonstration situated on fifty acres near London, Ontario, Canada. In our conversation, Shantree shares his personal transformation and continual recreation over four decades as a farmer, herbalist, and teacher, as well as how the site changed from a small herb farm to a site that has drawn thousands of visitors from dozens of countries. We also touch on how he and his wife and partner Lorraine are planning for the next generation of participants on the land, and for the future succession of The Living Centre.

Find Shantree and The Living Centre at: TheLivingCentre.com 

There is a quote from Bill Mollison, which I’ve shared at least once before on the show, in my interview with Geoff Christou, author of Utopia: A Permaculture Vision, which states:

When we design, we are always building for future floods, future fires, future droughts, and planting a tree a few inches tall that will be future forest giants, throw future shadows. Future populations will need future soils and forest resources, shelter, security. So somebody needs to range ahead in time, scout out the next century. We are not daydreaming. We are time scouts.

I see this vision and planning to respond to change as vital if we are ever going to “design out the designer” and ensure that the designs we lay down in our lifetime can continue without our management or influence.

Part of that comes through the classes I teach so we can get deep with ourselves, our stories, and our practices. My goal with students is to develop a grounded, rich understanding of what matters to us and create a cohesive vision and narrative that flows and grows with us throughout our lifetime. 

Another piece is to have conversations like this one on the podcast in the months ahead. Through the stories of Shantree and other guests, we can learn different ways to adapt to the changes we’ll face throughout life, and how to plan so our work carries on for generations after our hands have left the soil and our words are lost to the winds of time.

If you would like to continue the conversation and expand on these ideas of planning for the succession of projects and organizations, I ask you to get involved. Check out what Shantree and Lorraine are doing via their website and, if you’re near London, Ontario, Canada, go take a workshop or propose your own project to become an ecosystem participant.

Send me your questions so I can include them in a future episode. If there’s something you’d like answered on-air, there are at least ten other people listening, right now, who would like to hear the answer.

And, if you know someone involved in succession planning at any level from the personal to the systemic, send me their information so I can see if they’d be a good fit for this ongoing, occasional exploration of long-time horizons.

Whether you have questions or would like to suggest a guest, the best way to reach me is by email: The Permaculture Podcast

I look forward to hearing from you.

From here, the next episode is an interview with Vicki Hird to discuss what we can do to reverse the bug-pocalypse and rebug the planet. 

Until then, spend each day planning for success, while taking care of Earth, your self, and each other.

Resources
The Living Centre
The Living Centre on Facebook
The Living Centre on Instagram 

Learn More about The Living Centre Crowdfunding Campaign: https://chuffed.org/project/thelivingcentre

 

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Gigi Berardi - FoodWISE

Food. Something we think about regularly. Whether that’s what we’re having for our next meal; trying to remember the contents of our cabinets or refrigerator; or what we need to buy on our next trip to the grocery store. As permaculture practitioners, these thoughts are also likely to include what we’ll be harvesting from our garden; searching for a local source from a producer we can meet face to face; or reading labels to find the indicators of where something comes from and how it was produced.
 

 

Each of us are likely to have our own way to ask and answer questions related to whether or not the food systems we participate in and the food we take into our bodies are the right ones for us, our particular circumstances, and the planet.

What if there was a uniform method, however, to ask and answer these questions? Something we could use in our own lives, which is also easy to share with others. A way to examine, consider, and discuss our food choices, whether the scale is personal or planetary, and covers the range from policy to production to purchase.

This kind of model forms the conversation for this episode, as I sit down with Gigi Berardi to discuss FoodWISE, the system she’s developed and writes about in her recently released book of the same name. In a conversation where I share my own complex relationship with food, Gigi talks about the passion for food that led her to write the book, her sources of inspiration, additional resources you might find helpful, and how to keep ourselves informed and up-to-date on the latest food and agriculture science and research.

If you eat food, you’ll want to listen to this interview.

Click here to find out more about Gigi, her book, and additional resources

I wanted to interview Gigi and have this conversation because the foodWISE model reminds me of the ethics and principles of permaculture. The initial concept is quick to pick up and easy to teach. It provides a consistent way to talk with others about our interests, concerns, and how to resolve them. As a model and not a prescription, it is adaptable to a wide variety of situations. And, it allows room for us to make choices that best suit the resources we individually have available whether we need to find food at a farmer’s market, convenience store, or in our own backyard. I’ll definitely be sharing this with others in my personal life, so we can look and talk about our food choices more deeply.

What do you think about FoodWISE? Will you be picking up a copy of Gigi’s book? Are there other models, oriented around food or otherwise, which you use to navigate the many complex decisions we face every day?

From here, the next interview is a conversation with Shantree Kacera of The Living Centre, an eco-spiritual site located near London, Ontario, Canada. He joins me to share the ways he’s reinvented himself and The Living Centre over four decades engaged in ecological education and outreach, and how he’s planning for the succession of the location and organization.

Until then, spend each day making WISE food choices that take care of Earth, your self, and each other.

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